Try to talk to a good clubfitter if possible. Wedges: Callaway Forged 50, Vokey SM7 54S & 60L - DG wedge flex Upload or insert images from URL. I've been playing golf about 15 years and have been as low as an 8 handicap, but currently rest at 13. The driver is defintely tougher to time everything. Keep the left arm straight and across the chest as you slowly lower the arm until the butt of the club is straight out from your belt buckle, shaft horizontal to the ground, toe of club pointed straight up. The target is going to be 225lb again. I tend to setup comfortably in an open stance with all clubs. I have long arms, so my swing looks a little different than a guy with short arms and a larger chest. I was having problems with a seriously closed clubface in my backswing and at the top. 75K views 10 years ago Golf Swing Tips and Drills A great exercise to feel the correct body turn in the golf swing. Herman. Brian Smock has a great swing and has a thick chest. [*][color=#b22222][b][size=4]TP Mills Trad II Hand Forged [/size][/b][/color] Its very easy to stand up and rotate flat in the backswing. Wishon 775HS 22*, 25* I've lifted weights on and off my entire life, and have a barrel chest with large arms (luckily, I have only a 32" waist, so I'm not fat). There are many guys on this board who would love to get a shorter backswing. Elbows to chest In the clip, which you can watch in full below, Hogan suggests starting by making small swings, with your. I finally understand how to turn so the head stays centered and the shoulders are not too flat and I don't have to lift the arms. So my feet and shoulders do not match. Hi Herman, Like this? Consequently, my backswing is very short. It has been historically taught that way, but there is no biomechanical reason or advantage to changing the stance widths. What's my problem? Lol. Are 3 woods obsolete for double digit golfers??? Wishon 929 HS 14.5*, 19* 0.5 Open At 285 and wearing a 54 long jacket, I struggle with a one plane move. I'm not learned enough to explain the three-barrel part but was a lurking member years ago there, and it was certainly an information-packed place. 1: Ball Position This is the most common mistake I see among amateur golfers. Now I am 45lbs over weight, but plan to start working out after Thanksgiving lol. Exo #7. Unfortunately, just because the new changes are supposedly a better way to swing, it doesnt mean they will be easy to do or that they will work better initially. Over time, not playing nearly as much as my kids grew up, I lost the muscle memory for my natural stance. Otherwise, your on-line tutorials have been very helpful. I got down to 215lbs about ten years ago and I looked like I had AIDS, wearing 36" jeans. The beauty of this exercise is that you can easily throw a ball in the garden so next time you have a spare five minutes go outside pick up a ball and throw it. Peter Dawson, a prominent European Tour player in the 1970s and the first left-hander to play in the Ryder Cup, noticed a gap in the market for a coaching manual with tips for senior golfers. Never heard that term before. Thank you so much Herman. But because of a bad foundation, its just a tourist attraction now. Your videos have greatly improved my game. It was more like a shitty music festival than a golf tournament. The clubhead will lower to the ground directly in the center of your stance, butt of club still pointed at belt buckle. This will allow the clubhead to move thru the ball on a virtually level arc versus hitting down too much as it might on an iron shot. Herman. I come from a softball background and always hit opposite field (late swing). I tolerate forward shaft lean but dont advocate it. Herman. Not restricting the right hip may be another way of adding a touch of height via the body turn. My basic iron setup tries to align the shaft with the belt buckle picturing the shaft like a T-square with the leading edge of face perfectly square. Oh wait thats not correct. The golf setup is the foundation for a golf swing and getting setup to make a golf swing is probably as important as creating the proper foundation on which to build a building. I'm with ya and learned a lot from Dan while I was in Jacksonville a few months back. That kind of swing might be good for long drives, but it's probably not the most consistent for every day golf. Shift your weight onto your front foot and begin to rotate your hips toward the target. If you did not rotate the arms on the backswing, you'd only be able to raise the arms to about chest level. I have lost significant distance, consistency and golf balls trying to get flatter and deeper. Brian Smock has a great swing and has a thick chest. If thats correct then having the handle point at belt buckle usually works out to be a good shaft/wrist angle. I probably do have to stand slightly more away from the ball than a Davis Love type player. 2 & 4 iron: Callaway X Utility 18* & 24* w/ Project X Pxi 6.0 http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/881764-latest-swing-changes-post-jacksonville-updated-10-29-13/. Well youll be glad to know i can now strike a 3 iron pure like i never have in 20 years of playing. Then repeat it with your eyes shut and try to imagine you are swinging a golf club. Those are the only setup changes I make, feet right and flared. My short arms relative to chest are a major issue, I can't get my left arm across my chest, too much space between left arm and chest, and then can't get right elbow in front of right hip,it bounces off my gut and upper chest.. [quote name='sblack5' timestamp='1385096461' post='8188352'] Thanks so much for your great instruction.John,former P.G.A, Thanks John. I am a short, stocky guy, who - because of a larger chest - can't get his left arm anywhere close to tight/flat against my chest. Their strength is not enough to overcome the shorter ROM and general stiffness. A neutral grip makes it all too easy to let arm sit on the side of the chest. Thanks for commenting. I finally understand how to turn so the head stays centered and the shoulders are not too flat and I don't have to lift the arms. Ill try on the course your recomendation to set the feet slightly wider the the hips. Your link has been automatically embedded. DGA3, Lynn Blake's forum has a ton of older posts on hitting (it's a pattern based in TGM). [/quote] A well-placed golf stance puts your body in a athletic and balanced manner that allows you to turn and keep your balance throughout the golf swing. Regardless of stance width though the bottom of the swing arc will basically be the center of your stance, so for a ball played on the ground, center is easiest place to catch it solid and not try to time 13 different positions or stance widths. Dare I say a more stack-n-tilt backswing has help me tremendously, but I won't get into those specific "labels" here. If you are strong but lack mobility, especially in thoracic spine, you should be a 3 barrel hitter. Plus you are more connected to the big muscles of trunk. But understanding that this is the power generator for hitting the ball far and . Display as a link instead, Not straight enough basically. Or do you let wrists uncock as club falls to the ground? Before any more rambling I guess my main question is: : HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. [/quote] HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. Your knees should just crease slightly, no sitting or excessive bending. Callaway JAWS Raw 52* 56* and 60* Herman. Great architecture, it took over 175 years to build, and its now over 800 years old. I am taller and thinner than you, but I spent a lot of time swinging the way it sounds you do, Not before I got in front of a mirror after reading many posts on the subject here did I realize that I had no "up" to my swing. NASA spends a tremendous amount of time (months) setting everything up, then they put the shuttle on the crawler to slowly (days) march it over to the launching pad, finally they count down (seconds) and press the button (instantaneous) to launch. I'm very excited. We teach this on day one to every beginner we encounter, and they dont think this game is so hard to learn. . Miguel, The best way to test this is to see what length you hit most easily centered in the clubface. The beauty of this exercise is that you can easily throw a ball in the garden so next time you have a spare five minutes go outside pick up a ball and throw it. At any rate, be sure to check in a mirror to verify the look if it looks like Tiger and Rory, youre probably ok. Good luck. Great image for slicers and shorter distance golfers. That is what I do anyway, for what ever it is worth. Anyway, short, stocky, old guy here. Your link has been automatically embedded. Hybrids: Honma TW747 22* / 25* Jim, you are technically correct, but since I know you, I will also with humor say, stop over-analyzing. , For a broader audience who wont study this in too much detail, the idea is to start the club centered to get the most symmetrical possible start with body and club alignments and best possible takeaway. Again thanks for your rapid response. Thanks. Clearly, when I shifted too far right I threw my spine angle way off. Place an alignment rod under your toes and make some swings. The attendees were terrible, would rather party than appreciate golf. But. have been following your site for some time now and find your teaching illuminating and always interesting. From the top of the backswing Swing component: with your left arm across your chest, perform your body rotation towards the target in order to blast this left arm away from the chest. I am not sure what you are asking, but I think you are saying you don't like your backswing. This post is 4years old now but the same issues remain for some of us. Paste as plain text instead, I had some issues and knew something didnt feel right in set up. In order to look more conventional youre probably going to endure some pain along the way to reverse those habits. The Mrs. Was right, but we are all golfers here, so that's what we do, no need for 2nd post. We test length with impact sensitive tape to determine where you hit the face. Early release is the only result, so no chance of any lag. They are also very dependent on impact, and just after impact body positioning, because they can't maintain the angles for long. It would feel very uncomfortable and put you in a more or less cramped position. LC. My quick answer is bend over and tell those folks to leave you alone. Its about finding what works for your body type. There are a few reasons this might be happening. Thanks a million. I also checked out Craig Stadler's, and he, too, is very steep. If you post a video more people will be able to help out. I would also say most bigger guys swing on a more upright plane, but that doesn't mean you have to be steep, you can be shallow and upright. The T-square approach is simpler for a wide range of players. It's hard to do it through writing a reply. Generally barrel-chested guys need to get the arms on top of the chest and then bend over more than average to clear the chest on the swing. Moving it back a little for these short irons may help you if thats the case. Gerry James, another long drive guy, was Mr. California. As for setup changes, I find that I play better with my feet pointed more right of my target but my shoulders parallel left. [*][size=4][color=#008000][b]Ping G410 3 hybrid, Mitsubishi Tensei Blue Pro[/b][/color][/size] This causes the club to approach the ball on a significantly in-to-out path with a hold-on style of release. Heath is a big guy.but with a SWEET motion, Check out the last page of the kink to his thread above..Awesome stuff. [/quote] Mike Dunaway played football at Arkansas, I believe, and was rather stocky. I've been doing the limber 11 for the past few days, and will be starting an exercise/stretching routine at Fore Performance (a golf/fitness place near me) this coming Monday after a TPI assessment. As far as the left arm I remember hearing "either go over or under". There are definitely advantages and disadvantages. A couple of more ho ho's I should be 280 plus. I will report back. At this stage, we are ready to finish assembling the golf stance. . What should be the distance between my heels (stance wide) for iron 7, fairway wood and Driver? You can also let me know that Im overanalyizing this setup and that I should get a life and I will completely understand. The left arm technique is huge. I still have a lot of work to go but I feel more interested in golf now than ever. Your previous content has been restored. Randy, thanks for watching the videos and finding my site to leave a comment. But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. I was cheating, reaching out a bit instead of tilting fully to make my right arm long enough. Then repeat it with your eyes shut and try to imagine you are swinging a golf club. a brilliant swing. So, I went with a neutral grip. [/quote] So he and co-author and pupil Simon Hawkins pieced together Now for the Back Nine. I like this video. Any attempt to roll your hands over is negated by having such a strong grip forearms are basically locked into that 3-knuckle position. Groove the rotation you will need to pull your left arm in the downswing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaCMiAslT_k, Turn the mass I thought about buying new clubs but decided to put the money into fitness and some lessons: I'm confident that it will have much better results (short and long term)! Both nice looking golf swings, IMO. Learn how your comment data is processed. Wishon 919 THI 11* 0.5* Open Wishon 54, 59 Micro-Groove HM Set the feet just barely wider than the hips, toes turned out about 5 degrees on each foot, and start to bow from the hip sockets as you also let the wrists drop. Herman. Keep up the great work. That sucks. Ping G430 Max 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Velocore Blue 6X open feet, closed shoulders) You should see great results. This is the best explanation that I can find. What I witnessed has me hoping this tournament crashes and burns in tremendous fashion. One quick question. Thanks! At the top of my back swing l can feel my right elbow on my side. If not, click Golf Grip How to Grip a Golf Club. The bigger your chest is it shortens your arms at address and swing which in result you can utilize proper club length. Duly noted Ill try to get some specifics soon on driving. Bowing over more from the hips in the setup will allow a little more room for the arm to sit on top of chest and still comfortably hang to the ball. Club fitting is very important but your address and set up is key. Rock Flying Wings Golf Swing for Barrel Chested Guys like Howard 31Oct2014 RockBurke 848 subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 8 years ago Show more Dalton McCrary 8 years ago New Thorbjrn. He was solid as a rock-. Lofts 18 , 21.5, 25, 29, 33, 37, 41, 45, 49, 53, 58. You dont stand there, painstakingly line yourself up, and then start thinking about the angle of your hand and arm as you draw your arm back to throw. Quote Reply to this topic. I am working on it though. Squat Jump. It's simple and very informative. Always helps to post a video as well, so people with a better understanding of the swing can comment. It's just that there are folks who advocate that the arms don't raise at all, that your hands go up by virtue of turning your shoulders on an incline, but this thought can be damaging to folks like you and me. Mizuno MP18 3-Pw/ PX 6.0 Problem for me is getting arms moving before the right shoulder which then causes my left bicep hits my pec very quickly and everything stops. But heres a question: say for a 9iron, the offset will leave the face of the club look closed (I am playing Mizuno JPX800 iron set), and its almost impossible to make it look square. First off, the elbow joint cant bend targetward in this position so it helps prevent chicken winging and it slightly preloads the left forearm for a strong release. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. Noticed a few things creeping in that I wanted to get my setup a little more structured. 5 mistakes all golfers make on par 3 holes, Marcus Westerberg Chipping Tips: Stop helping the ball in the air, PGA Tour star reveals what it's like to play with a red-hot Jon Rahm, Equipment brand publicly cuts ties with LIV Golf stars, 'The DP World Tour feeds the PGA Tour it's always been like that', Keith Pelley: 'I have no influence on the Ryder Cup', Keep your feet together to improve your chipping. But for the purposes of this article, were going to gloss over grip, assuming you have the details of hand position already figured out. I like Smocks swing too. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. I assume you mean how high the hands should be at address. But it does simplify the golf swing to the bare essentials and the closer you can get to this action the better your swing and the results will be. I think you need a copy of the "LAWS of the Golf Swing" by Mike Adams, Jim Suttie & T.J. Tomasi. HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. Ive noticed on the range that many people set up with the handle of the golf club positioned near their left thigh, or pointed toward the target, creating the appearance of the club leaning forward at address. The other common flaw developed out of a forward press is a tendency to take the clubhead to the inside on the takeaway. I also pivot better if I flare both feet out quite a bit, especially the front foot. I have always wondered what it feels like to swing for a guy that is very flexible and thinner? See What Members Are Saying! Head to our competitions page to enter. As for the S&T, I learned a ton from that thread and have spent a lot of time reading it a couple of months ago. Watching the Stadler video convinces me to go back to my natural, upright motion. He played at Central Arkansas, where he was a Backer. I'm barrel chested and not overweight I setup like anyone else and swing the same as everyone I golf with. My lower back is on it's last legs. The golfer is forced to roll the arms around the body which in turn opens the clubface and sends the club off plane. My shoulder is 46cm width. Until you lose it. Let the club fall half way down from bending at the hips, then let the wrists uncock enough to finish lowering the club to the ground. Only you can judge if its worth that. Yes right arm must fall close to body on downswing. If the lead arm is sitting on the side of the body, the chest is in the way of starting a proper takeaway and backswing. I am now 58 my handicap is 14.6 but lately I have lost a lot of distance and should probably be 18, I was never a massive hitter, probably 230 with the driver from a solid shot but now I am lucky to hit 180, 7 iron 110 all perfectly straight. Kevin, my first thought is youve got to really identify your natural style. You now have both hands on the club, left arm sitting somewhat uncomfortably on top of left chest, left shoulder is higher than the right (which means spine is tilted slightly to the right), right arm is soft at the elbow, right shoulder tucked back and down, club is pointed straight out from belt buckle. 5-PW: Callaway X Forged '13 w/ Project X Pxi 6.0 Been lucky to have played most of this winter. Hogan had great leg drive and fast hips considering his major injuries from the car wreck in 1949. Are 3 woods obsolete for double digit golfers??? I'm 6"2 240lbs and former bodybuilder. Perhaps because Im left-handed, but swing right-handed, I set the club behind the ball with the left hand only and then place my right hand on the club. Basically, it's a three-step process, Hogan says. This keeps the right shoulder back and the shoulders square to the line. Staying centered has been critical for my improvement, it tightens things up in the backswing and allows for a shallower downswing. I haven't asked for a refund yet since it isn't really Dans fault. If you can consistently hook the ball with the hands turning over, then work on allowing the club to fall more behind you in downswing as the hips clear more aggressively. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. The final step in our setup is to simply march over to the golf ball. Keep up the good work and I will continue to keep in touch. 2) As you said, simply learn to rotate forearms faster/sooner this is usually the #1 problem. [/quote] But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. Michael Breed teaches you a drill for a better body turn in your golf swing. Herman. Herman. Herman, Herman when I set up like you describe I too press my left hip a little. Herman, Great Job on the videos ,I live in Greensboro and am lefty,Iwill be calling for a lesson soon . The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. Variety being the "spice of life" and all that, we are not created equal in all aspects. Lookup member hstead and his progress threadbiggest upper body of any golfer I've seen Former European Tour and Ryder Cup player turned coach Peter Dawson has plenty of swing tips for senior golfers, including this gem, In his coaching companion, Now for the Back Nine, former European Tour and Ryder Cup player Peter Dawson has pieced together a series of easy-to-read, digestible coaching tips aimed at golfers of an advancing age. Peter has generously given us a copy to give away. Big hello from Texas. Your previous content has been restored. Are their set up or swing adjustments to make when thick chested? Herman, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here. 3) Stronger grip should help, but i dont like a different grip for irons and woods. Rich, most golfers report that same perception. All of the older guys I play with have lost a lot more flexibility than strength. What bothers me most now is the driver, could you talk more about how to set up and hit a driver/fairway wood. By As you turn your body and swing the arms in front of your chest, picture your left arm rotating and your wrists setting so the water will leak out gradually on a line between your feet and the ball. The 3 biggest mistakes you make with your driver. You can read our review of the book in our rundown of the best golf instruction books, or head to the Now for the Back Nine website if you need more information or want to buy a copy. Pasted as rich text. Swing the golf club more around your body This weeks swing analysis shows how by swinging the golf club more around your body will help hit the golf ball more out of the centre of the. A stronger grip tends to push the hands farther forward as its the only position that feels comfortable. Youd never get rid of me. Keep your back straight as you stick your tail out and keep your chin up to avoid a hunch back appearance. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! Be Better Golf BE BETTER GOLF. I checked, and indeed running a club from my chest though my belt buckle has the head touching my left leg as you demonstrated. It should feel like your right arm scrapes your left hip coming down and then turn the back of your right hand down toward the ground. Its never too late to figure it out and start getting better. How To Open Up The Chest Through Impact And Rotate Milo Lines Golf 52K views 1 year ago Mike Malaska: DO NOT "ROTATE" your Lower Body in the golf swing! That type of rolling for guys that start with their arm on their side promotes open clubfaces, laid off backswings, etc. Thanks for the great video. I can relate to you on that one brother! Hi Herman! Try to make what amounts to a forward press with your hips and knees in the setup. You can find connection information from Jimmy Ballards work. One setup issue a I struggle with is spine tilt. Eliminate swaying and lunging which rob you of distance and accuracy. yup, great stretches. Sign up here for our newsletter and you'll never slice a drive again. Here's how to do it. It isnt as easy as that, of course. There are definitely adjustments and considerations that need to be made with this type of build. Swing Faster And Stop Coming Over The Top Watch on Kyle Morris, named by Golf Digest as one of "America's Best Young Instructors" shows why the use of ones chest too much in the swing can lead to coming over the top and a lack of speed.

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