We went up to New York to record. I know my reaction to Hacketts "Genesis revisited" was- Hmm, I guess hes running out of money As I wrote, I find Hacketts soloalbums uneven but on the other handhis music is solid (apart from that GTR-thing, didnt like it!) Jeff Porcaro: a great drummer but not a main composer in Toto. How did he know you? He was a drummer deep down in his very soul, one that would take on occasional backing vocal or songwriting duties only if he had to. most great drummers won't ever do that, because they live for their drums. Not at all. So Phil did pop some good , some average and some contrived but all big selling. Steve and I always stayed pretty good friends. What happened when Jaco Pastorius came in on bass and Alphonso Johnson left? For lack of a better word, they are really, really British. That stuff smokes. He ended up with a recording contract. It was this whole haunting thing that was really cool. Hed then go off to a studio and work on whatever he had in the can. None of the other members really knew how to communicate in a funny way with their audiences. The guy was brilliant, amazing. Man, what a phenomenal singer and piano player. None of the other members really knew how to communicate in a funny way with their audiences. I started with those frat parties, bars, and little dives. And that was the end of that. Just listen to Brand X andlive Genesis. We picked what we wanted from them and made something new. From Jazz (Weather Report), to Rock (Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention), to Pop (Genesis/Phil Collins) to Gospel (Ron Kenoly), Chester Thompson has surpassed the boundaries of musical genres. We played songs and that was that. All rights reserved. If you werent busy enough with Genesis tours and Phil Collins tours, you joined Santana in 1984? Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Progatron, Feb 4, 2021. Just trying to make the best use of the time. They didnt find out until pretty late in the game that Bill wasnt going to do the next tour. And initially, that was so families could travel. Bill knew that world. We learned how to deal with it. Not too many of them sing even backing vocals. They sent over some cassettes. most great drummers won't ever do that, because they live for their drums. At the same time, it was a little weird investing that much time in something you were never going to be a part of. Id hang out with these guys and theyd play all sorts of crazy stuff Id never heard before. It`s not true. I certainly wasnt surprised that he was successful. I seem to recall Chester had a falling out with the post-Collins duo too, when they rejected his request to become a full member in the band. If Phil made a compilation of 70's albums I wouldn't think he's running out of money (In first place nobody will acept to do a Prog Genesis album with him), I would think hre wants MORE money, and he's trying to recapture Prog' fanbase. The first couple of years, I pretty much put it together. Somebody would have their radio on the outside. If you know the history, Joe [Zawinul] and Wayne [Shorter] were real good friends. I dont know when he slept. I was okay one-on-one, but they speak much, much faster than we do. Beans and Corn Bread was probably my favorite Louis Jordan tune. Smart interviewer, letting an interesting subject just go. I managed to get 11 songs tracked with my own band in L.A. because we decided a while back not to just sit around. Wed just sit in a side room because all they really wanted was the three guys. Youve played Take Me Home hundreds of times. Unknown to me, he quit over the Christmas holidays. Its very rewarding and Im involved with an organization here called the Nashville Jazz Workshop. Music education. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . Chester Thompson and Phil Collins Chester Thompson - From Jazz to Genesis Aug 17, 2018 by Bill King Comments Its been 42 years since drummer Chester Thompson, bassist Jeff Breeh, and myself were the backing/touring piano jazz trio for the Pointer Sisters. Tom Fowler would stand onstage with a pointer and would point to the notes he was supposed to play. Carmine Appice, Cozy Powell: composers as soloists, mainly. Playing that stuff from the Seventies was full of charge. This is the live version of Inside Out, recorded in Berlin in 1990. I saw online that Phil said in some interview he was quitting the band. Drummers are kept in the background because DRUMS CAN'T MOVE AROUND THE SCENARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Weather Report bassist] Alphonso [Johnson] had been a friend for years. Getting the gig was no walk in the park. 1; 2; 3; . Again, Ive got no grudge. Most of the drummers have musical studies, to make arrangements you need to read and write music, even if you don't make the arrangements, you need to read music in order to understand the new arrangements that bands do after every tour in old songs. But with Phil, youre one of a cast of thousands. Captain Beefheart plays harmonica on the album. Keith Moon, John Bonham: great drummers, yes, key members, because their band never sounded the same without them, butthey weren`tthe main composers in their bands. Chester's performance and recording experiences have influenced over three decades of music and musicians. I was seriously intimidated. How were the Phil solo tours? This is before they had their own studio. The 2021 tour is billed as "The Last Domino?" named after the song "Domino" which . Daryl and I came back. I was kind of surprised that Daryl wasnt doing it, either. We just did a short tour of Canada and that was that. Sorry man, but Steve is the only Genesis member that released a whole album with new version of Genesis songs, i can't understand how somebody can say he didn't liked the music. I dont think that far ahead. When we got to rehearsal, I didnt know about the stuff that was going on in Phils life. But I understand a totally different thing from your quotes, but again it's only my opinion. And of course, there was another drummer there and it was an audition. Why not? And I gotta tell you, man, Barry Gibb might have been one of the most professional people Ive worked with in my life. During that particular run, there was none, ever. Its not something he did. It ended up being a little awkward since they were going to be down there for seven weeks. I think that he became popular with housewives, and that was his "guilt". Her parents are now in her band. Billy Cobham: a very good drummer who shimnes mostly as soloist. It was a vocal version. Great drummer. When I was 13 and able to go on my own, I pretty much went every other week. It was going to be South America too. Ive already played stuff for the guys. Basically, we rehearsed eight hours a day, 40 hours a week. Do you talk to Daryl still? A couple of days later, he brought the whole band in. Its very nice to get that stuff, but at the same time, because Ive moved on, its taking me back and forcing me to deal with it again. I certainly never dreamed it would go on and on like it did. Thank you, I agree with you about the intelligent debate and even if we disagree about somethings in the end its down to a matter of opinons. But after reading the (excellent) interview, I have to say I'm quite surprised at how Chester was treated by the guys through the years. I am a huge Genesis fan, but am only in high school so I never experienced Genesis when they were popular. Weve been swapping ideas back and forth, writing and tracking. They were doing Cloudburst and all that stuff. One day, he got pretty frustrated with me and literally cussed me out in front of everybody. You couldnt take yourself that seriously. But hed get more comfortable with it and be really involved with putting it together. To be honest, the problem started with all the band specially because many people believe (I also do) that the relation between Tony and Steve wasn't good since he recorded Voyage (Tony was clear, no solo projects, and Steve didn't invited him but calling Mike and Phil), plus the fact that Tony was suposed to be the main songwritter, but Steve wanted to fight this position with him. Also note that Onion Head didn't do much writting on the good Genesis LPs like: Foxtrot, Trespass, Selling England, Lamb, Nursery, Trick of the tail, EWnd and Wuthering. I called Joe and was like, I just got this message from Wayne saying not to come to the studio. I recall someone asking Chester if he could swing with his snare tilted so steeply. I think that Bruford said that in 1992-93 for the "Notes of the Edge" website. But doing it was really fun. I like them and respect them, even when i disagree. It was a big part of his background, and we just hit it off immediately., One of his biggest problems on his first Genesis tour was trying to understand his English bandmates speech. I was wide-eyed and paying attention and had no idea what was going on. This is why I don't think they sold out or did it for any other reason than that is what they wanted to do. . As it turned out, I wound up doing a little, brief drum-clinic tour down there in Australia. He got it. Basically, after the first day, I was like, The only way this is going to work is if you give me a list of which tunes you want to go over the next day Ill have them ready.. But they had so many new tunes they were promoting. If you listen to the title track, there are two different drummers on two different days of recording. Unfortunately, it really took off, so I dont think it worked as a tax write-off. Did you get to meet him? I did most of my tracks like Inca Roads with George on piano. The band stays like it is. Alphonso had been there three years. Like I said, it was never a band in that sense. They were having a little congratulations party for Tony [Smith] to celebrate 30 years of management or something. My first drum lessons were in jazz. He played us the demo on the way to a gig before it had drums on it. If you were in Franks band, you had to be willing to be silly. So they took some time off. And its fine. I also think that he is underrated, because he likes ballads, and not many people who likes Prog Music likes ballads. Frank had a blackboard onstage with all the note names on it. The whole interview is a really good read. I just love the adventure of life. Phil and I locked way easier than Ralph Humphrey and I did. The whole band took Tony's side (There's no Genesis without Tony) instead of compromising, giving more songs to Steve, It's ridiculous that Your Own Special Way was in W&W instead of Steve's superior material. The other guy called himself Sonship, Woody Theus. Oh, yeah. As of late though, I think Phil Collins has sold out, but not the with Genesis. [Sighs] Thats a whole drama Im not crazy about. But the next thing I know, they started having meetings. Affiliate programs and Well appreciated, keep up enjoying Phil Collins! My problem is not even Phil the singer (Even when I like Pete's voice and singing more), my problem is wiyth Phil the songwritter. I mean, there was mutual respect and stuff, but there was never, like, a friendship. He isn't the main cause of downfall for Genesis, so shut up about that. Oh, my goodness! It was an incredibly difficult piece of music that we actually nailed in the studio. I could not follow a single conversation. Basically, he tried to come up with stuff the band couldnt play, and we always managed to pull it off. Chester Thompson on His Years With Genesis, Frank Zappa, and Weather Report, Northern California between Sac and SF, CA, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. What are you talking about?. With that said, I love all of the Genesis albums from 1972-1977, including A Trick of the Tail and Seconds Out which both have Phil Collins on lead vocals. How was that? And the best artists do it without you even realising it. So, youre a freelance drummer hoping to get re-upped for a gig with a guy who has hired you again and again over more than two decades, and you dont send a holiday card? That stood out more than anything. I mean, as a matter of fact, the seed got planted on Phils tour at the end of 2005. But on that first tour Id be like, Come on, man. It was a much bigger band, Thompson told Rolling Stone in a new interview. During that same conversation, I said to him, As a matter of fact, I need to take a break from doing both. The news that he left didnt come out until 1996 or so.

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